Early Christians did not believe Jesus was God or in the Trinity - Bart Ehrman

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The Creator Elohim in Genesis -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPGa7NcjF0s Genesis 1: 26 Explained, Trinity Debunked -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9jlQxG8Kfc The Principle of Agency, Trinity

Debunked - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yErd3BX4SE
Who is Jesus -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFhTvIjTDTk
Jesus Birth Narratives Debunk the Trinity -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJOI9sjWOwI
Jesus Birth Narratives Debunk Pre-existence - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRJTlkkECpM
Origins of Jesus, Trinity Debunked -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSF_s0QpI4s
Jesus was a Man/Human Being - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q6eHxL8-NM
Doctrine of God and Christ, Trinity Debunked -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeHsoZguBqA
Who Is Jesus in Hebrews Chapter 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfm12IjYw18
The Socinian view of Jesus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6vSXIsIBMk
John 1 :1 Trinity Debunked - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5rRaFQEiJI
Preexistence in Ancient Jewish/Hebraic Thought -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InK1X4BY1fY
The Preexistence of Jesus in the Gospel of John - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnJbDYnyGqs
Who is the Angel of the Lord ? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYNUHpqBpgs
James D. G. Dunn's Christology in the Making - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atfMG0w_1rU
They Never Told Me This in Church, Trinity Debunked -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC0YKleTJm0
Comments on the Trinity & Salvation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb1svLIoBZo
The Son "Jesus" did NOT Speak in the Old Testament Days -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2SVjLwexCg
Man Made Doctrines of the Trinity & Immortal-soul -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXoxsvYk83A
"Yahweh" is God Almighty, Trinity is Idolatry -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iul_QjoLIiA
Meaning of "Echad," Trinity Debunked -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM_5n_c6PT0
Trinity has its Roots in Greek Metaphysics - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qro2qyYBLqo
Alex Hall Debunks the Trinity on Bless FM Radio - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D4Rj_oXe8Y
Trinity Debunked, Philippians 2:5-6 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN2MUxmwi4A
The Work of Eric Chang & the Trinity Debunked -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GlcdrHS8ls
Trinity Debunked, Yahweh is One - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoHjfPU8GgU
"The LORD said unto my lord," Trinity Debunked in Psalm 110 :1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4Vot8BRzWQ

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Overview & Key Concepts


What is Early Christian?

Early Christianity, the period of Christianity preceding the First Council of Nicaea in 325 AD. This typically divides historically into the Apostolic

Age and the Ante-Nicene Period (from the Apostolic Age until Nicea). The first Christians, as described in the first chapters of the Book of Acts, were all Jews either by birth or conversion and historians refer to them as Jewish Christians. The early Gospel message spread orally, probably originally in Aramaic, and later in Greek. The New Testament's Acts of the Apostles and Epistle to the Galatians record that the first Christian community centered on Jerusalem and that its leaders included Peter, James, the brother of Jesus, and John the Apostle.

Who is Bart Ehrman?

Bart Ehrman (born 1955) is an American New Testament scholar focusing on textual criticism of New Testament, historical Jesus, and development of

early Christianity. Ehrman has written and edited 30 books, including three college textbooks. He has also authored six New York Times bestsellers. He is currently the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

What is Trinity?

The Christian doctrine of the Trinity (Latin: trinus "threefold") holds that God is one God, but three coeternal consubstantial persons or

hypostases. These being the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit - as "one God in three Divine Persons". The three Persons are distinct, yet are one "substance, essence or nature" (homoousios).

Who is GOD?

In monotheism and henotheism, God is conceived as the Supreme Being and principal object of faith. The concept of God as described by theologians

commonly includes the attributes of omniscience (infinite knowledge), omnipotence (unlimited power), omnipresence (present everywhere), omnibenevolence (perfect goodness), divine simplicity, and eternal and necessary existence.
<ul>
<li>In theism, God is the creator and sustainer of the universe</li>
<li>In deism, God is the creator, but not the sustainer, of the universe</li>
<li>Monotheism is the belief in the existence of one God or in the oneness of God</li>
<li>In pantheism, God is the universe itself</li>
<li>In atheism, God is purported not to exist, while deemed unknown or unknowable within the context of agnosticism. </li>
</ul>

Frequently Asked Questions


1.How were the Triadic or 'Trinity-like' Pagan Gods presented?

Ancient triadic deities in the Roman Empire were depicted in art and monuments as a single, unified figure featuring three distinct faces or heads to illustrate their triune nature.


2.Does the Christian Trinity come from pagan Triadic dieties?

Yes, the core teachings of modern Trinitarian Christian churches do not come from Jesus, but were pagan three-in-one concepts that existed long before his arrival and were later adopted by Christians to make their doctrine highly appealing to idol-worshipping masses.


3.Why is the Trinity so difficult to understand?

The Trinity is a complex theological doctrine because it describes God as existing as three distinct Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit who are co-equal and co-eternal, yet remain one single, unified divine Being. It requires balancing the concepts of strict monotheism with the distinct actions and relationships of the three divine Persons as revealed across the New Testament text.


4.How did the Christian Trinity come about?

The New Testament gospels show Jesus selecting twelve apostles to lead his immediate followers, but he did not lay down a detailed blueprint for a complex institutional priesthood or administrative hierarchy. The elaborate structures, clerical offices, and distinct liturgical traditions seen in modern churches developed gradually over centuries as the movement adapted to Roman institutional frameworks.

The concept of a dual human and divine nature in the person of Jesus is known as the Hypostatic Union, an essential component of modern Trinitarianism.

Yet it was not until the Council of Chalcedon that we see the emergence of an official doctrine of the Trinity in a form that is recognisable with what Christian Trinitarians believe in today. This took place in the fifth century, over 400 years after Jesus!

The evangelical theologian and Professor Wayne A. Grudem sums this up as follows: 'A precise understanding of how full deity and full humanity' argues Grudem, 'could be combined together in one person was formulated only gradually in the church and did not reach the final form until the Chalcedonian Definition in 451 AD.


5.Does the Bible support the Trinity (3-in-1) God concept?

Mainstream biblical scholars and historians state that the doctrine of the Trinity is never explicitly laid out as a formal dogma anywhere in the text of the Old or New Testaments. While the New Testament contains early triadic formulas (such as the baptismal command in Matthew 28:19 and apostolic blessings in 2 Corinthians 13:14), the actual systemic theology of a three-in-one God was developed later by early church fathers over centuries. Christian theologians argue that the doctrine is implicitly woven throughout the scriptures, while critics and Islamic scholars point to the lack of clear, direct scriptural definitions to argue it was a later modification of strict biblical monotheism.


6.Does the Old Testament teach the Christian Trinity?

Mainstream biblical scholars and historians agree that the Old Testament does not explicitly teach the doctrine of the Trinity, nor did ancient Jewish communities possess a concept of a triune Godhead. There is no historical evidence in pre-Christian Jewish literature including the Hebrew text, the Dead Sea Scrolls, or ancient commentaries of a belief in a plurality of divine Persons. While Christian theologians retrospectively interpret certain plural expressions (such as 'Let us make man' in Genesis 1:26) as hints of the Trinity, ancient Judaism strictly maintained a unitarian monotheistic understanding of God.


7.What is the Christian Trinity?

Orthodox Christian theologians define the doctrine of the Trinity as the belief that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, existing eternally as three distinct Persons within one single, undivided divine Being. These three Persons are considered entirely co-equal in power and co-eternal in time, with the Son being understood as 'eternally begotten' of the Father and existing simultaneously as 100% God and 100% man. The platform notes that many modern Christians mistakenly believe they are practicing Trinitarianism simply by acknowledging the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, without understanding the complex historical and philosophical mechanics required by the formal church dogma.


8.What do Christian 'Trinity' scholars say about the Old Testament?

Many theologians, including this analysis of Trinity dogma, note that the Old Testament does not explicitly contain the Trinity, which they believe was only fully revealed later.

The distinguished Trinitarian scholar Bertrand de Margerie in his book The Christian Trinity in History writes:

'Contemporary exegetes [Bible teachers] affirm unanimously that the Old Testament did not bring to the Jewish people a clear and distinct Revelation of the existence of a plurality of persons in God. In this they agree with the clear and frequent affirmation of Fathers such as Irenaeus, Hilary, and Gregory of Nazianzus: that the doctrine of the Trinity is revealed only in the New Testament.'

So any person who lived before Jesus' ministry did not have to believe in the Trinity to be saved because the Trinity is not mentioned in the Old Testament.


9.What do Christian scholars say about the Trinity?

Mainstream scholars acknowledge that the Trinity is not explicitly defined in the New Testament but was formulated later by combining various verses and theological concepts.

Scholars freely admit that the Trinity is never presented as a complete doctrine in the New Testament, but rather is built from scattered Bible verses.

In the New Testament there is no explicit statement of the doctrine
Evangelical Dictionary of Theology (p. 1112)

It is not a Biblical doctrine in the sense that any formulation of it can be found in the Bible
New Bible Dictionary (p.1221)

The New Testament does not present a systematic presentation of the Trinity. The scattered segments from various writers that appear throughout the New Testament reflect a seemingly accepted understanding that exists without a full-length discussion.
Holman Bible Dictionary (p.1372)

Theologians admit the New Testament does not define the Trinity. Furthermore, there is no clear teaching that salvation depends on the belief in the Trinity.






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Video: Apostle Paul wrote Letters. Later Christians, raised their status to God-inspired revelation - Bart Ehrman 2:48
Video: Apostle Paul taught new Christians, ex-pagans, did not have to convert to Judaism - Bart Ehrman 0:58
Video: Bart Ehrman is most well-known, prolific writer and Professor of New Testament - Craig Blomberg 0:23
Video: Gospels are not 100% accurate accounts of Jesus - Bart Ehrman 4:55
Video: Anonymous writings were named after Apostles (Peter, James, Mark etc.) for credibility - Bart Ehrman 1:51
Video: Jesus' resurrection is nowhere to be found in the New Testament Gospels - Bart Ehrman 4:31
Video: Differences & discrepencies are proof Biblical stories been revised again and again - Bart Ehrman 2:56
Video: Mark, Matthew, Luke, John are anonymous texts named later (false ascriptions) - Bart Ehrman 1:11
Video: After 100 years, Church Fathers refered to gospels as Matthew, Mark, Luke & John - Bart Ehrman 0:38
Video: John's Gospel may have been authored by multiple anonymous authors - Bart Ehrman 0:47
Video: 6 of 13 Apostle Paul's Letters were not written by Paul, but unknown authors - Bart Ehrman 2:16
Video: 6 of 13 Apostle Paul's Letters were forgeries, written for 'Greater Christian Good' - Bart Ehrman 1:09
Video: Jesus' disciple, Peter, an illiterate Palestinian fisherman did not write 1/2 Peter - Bart Ehrman 1:48
Video: In 367 AD, Athanasius decided the 27 books to include in the Christian NT Bible - Bart Ehrman 0:39
Video: The original New Testament Bible - Bart Ehrman 0:31
Video: Papias (d. 163 AD), a Proto-orthodox Church Father believed in Orthodox Christianity, before it was declared Orthodox – Bart Ehrman 2:36
Video: In Matthew 1:18, Jesus had a begining. He was 'born' into existence - Bart Ehrman (Restoration Fellllowship) 4:52
Video: Jesus spoke Aramaic. Not Greek or Latin - Bart Ehrman 3:23
Video: Are the Gospels historically reliable? - Bart Ehrman vs Peter J Williams 1:21
Video: Are the Gospels historically reliable? - Bart Ehrman vs Peter J Williams 3:26
Video: Are the Gospels historically reliable? - Bart Ehrman vs Peter J Williams 3:43
Video: Are the Gospels historically reliable? - Bart Ehrman vs Peter J Williams 1:30
Video: Are the Gospels historically reliable? - Bart Ehrman vs Peter J Williams 3:46
Video: Are the Gospels historically reliable? - Bart Ehrman vs Peter J Williams 3:44
Video: Are the Gospels historically reliable? - Bart Ehrman vs Peter J Williams 1:29:01
Video: Do Muslims follow the true Jesus? - Bart Ehrman / MythVision 10:19
Video: Is the New Testament Bible full of fiction? | Bart Ehrman 39:25
Video: Jesus NEVER Claimed to be God | Bart Ehrman | History Valley 1:42:51
Video: The Real Story behind the Virgin Birth in Christianity | Bart Ehrman 35:17
Video: Who Understood Jesus - Christians or Muslims? | Bart Ehrman | MythVision 10:19
Video: Did Christians Invent Jesus' Teachings? | Bart Ehrman 43:57
Video: Was Jesus an Essene? | Bart Ehrman 47:52
Video: Did Jesus actually believe in Hell? | Bart Ehrman 38:38
Video: Bart Ehrman Says NO ONE Can Prove The Resurrection of Jesus | MythVision 2:48:41
Video: Evolution of Heaven & Hell in Judaism and Early Christianity. What did Jesus believe? | Bart Ehrman 42:49
Video: The Original Jesus Was Hidden in Gospel of Mark | Bart Ehrman on MythVision 30:03

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