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On Saturday 18th July 2015 at 02:30 pm, Bart D. Ehrman and Timothy J. McGrew join as guests with moderator Justin Brierley on radio show 'Unbelievable,' a weekly program aired on UK Premier ChristianRadio from the London studio. They discuss 'Can We Trust the Gospels?' Bart Ehrman discusses whether the Gospels are reliable historical records of Jesus’ life with Christian apologist and academic Tim McGrew. They debate whether inerrancy makes any difference, the authorship of the Gospels and apparent contradictions between them.
Program discussed on Bart Ehrman's Foundation Blog: http://ehrmanblog.org/?p=10329
Christian radio show 'Unbelievable' hosted by Justin Brierley: www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable
Bart D. Ehrman is the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He came to UNC in 1988, after four years of teaching at Rutgers University. At UNC he has served as both the Director of Graduate Studies and the Chair of the Department of Religious Studies. A graduate of Wheaton College (Illinois), Professor Ehrman received both his Masters of Divinity and Ph.D. from Princeton Theological Seminary, where his 1985 doctoral dissertation was awarded magna cum laude.
Timothy J. McGrew is the Professor of Philosophy at Western Michigan University in Kalamazoo, Michigan. He also serves as a Senior Research Fellow with Apologetics.com. He hold a Ph.D. in Philosophy from Vanderbilt University (1992). He has published in numerous journals including Mind,The Monist, Analysis, British Journal for the Philosophy of Science, and Philosophia Christi. His most recent publications include “Evidence” in The Routledge Companion to Epistemology, a co-authored anthology in The Philosophy of Science. His teach interests include: epistemology, history and philosophy of science, philosophical applications of probability and philosophy of religion.
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Who is Bart Ehrman?
Bart Ehrman (born 1955) is an American New Testament scholar focusing on textual criticism of New Testament, historical Jesus, and development of early Christianity. Ehrman has written and edited 30 books, including three college textbooks. He has also authored six New York Times bestsellers. He is
currently the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. |
Who is Tim McGrew?
Timothy Joel McGrew is Professor of Philosophy, and Chair of the Department of Philosophy at Western Michigan University. His research interests include Epistemology, the History and Philosophy of Science, and Philosophy of Religion. He is a specialist in the philosophical applications of
probability theory. McGrew graduated from the University of Scranton in Pennsylvania with a B.A. in Philosophy (summa cum laude, 1988). He went on to earn an MA (1991) and a PhD (1992) in philosophy at Vanderbilt University. |
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